{"id":152,"date":"2008-11-25T14:29:48","date_gmt":"2008-11-25T12:29:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hume.doesntexist.org\/\/?p=152"},"modified":"2010-07-25T16:10:30","modified_gmt":"2010-07-25T14:10:30","slug":"brieven-over-de-pinto","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/?p=152","title":{"rendered":"Over De Pinto"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" style=\"border:0px\" src=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=aHE7AAAAcAAJ&#038;dq=essay%20sur%20le%20luxe%20de%20pinto&#038;hl=nl&#038;pg=PA146&#038;output=embed\" width=500 height=500><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>dit is dus in zijn stuk over publiek krediet, maar ook in Sur le luxe valt Humes naam onmiddellijk<\/p>\n<p><iframe frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" style=\"border:0px\" src=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=aHE7AAAAcAAJ&#038;dq=essay%20sur%20le%20luxe%20de%20pinto&#038;hl=nl&#038;pg=PA382&#038;output=embed\" width=500 height=500><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>hieronder de brieven:<br \/>\n***********************<\/p>\n<p><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } \t\tA:link { so-language: zxx } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #800040;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\">Hume: TLDH Vol 1 Ltr 229 To: Neville [64] p 423<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124827142&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhfm1357&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhfm1357\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2020\u00a0*<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span lang=\"nl-NL\"> 229. <\/span><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><em><strong>To<\/strong><\/em><\/span><span lang=\"nl-NL\"> RICHARD ALDWORTH NEVILLE<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124827142&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhfm1358&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhfm1358\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2020\u00a03<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: left;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\">Paris, March 14, 1764.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\">Manifold have been the persecutions, dear Sir, which the unhappy Jews, in several ages, have suffered from the misguided zeal of the Christians, but there has at last arisen a Jew capable of avenging his injured nation, and striking terror into their proud oppressors; this formidable Jew is Monsr. de PINTO<\/span><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><strong>o<\/strong><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"nl-NL\">, and the unhappy Christian, who is chiefly exposed to all the effects of his cruelty, is your humble servant. He says, that you promised to mention him to me; I do not remember that you did: he says, that he has done the most signal services to England, while the Duke of Bedford was Ambassador here; I do not question it, but they are unknown to me: he says, that he is poor, and must have a pension for his reward; I wish he may obtain it, but I cannot assist him: he sends me letters, which I transmit to you, but I cannot oblige you to answer them: he says, that Lord Hertford must get justice done him, if the Duke of Bedford neglects him; I do not believe that the Duke of Bedford neglects anybody that has done him service: he grows angry; I exhort him to patience.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><strong>424<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\">This, dear Sir, is a very abridged account of the dialogue which passes every day between M. PINTO and me, that is, every day when he can break in upon me, and lay hold of me: when he catches Lord Hertford, he is very copious on the same subject; but when he seizes poor Lord Beauchamp, his Lordship has good reason to curse the day he was born mild and gentle, and made incapable of doing or saying a harsh thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } \t\tA:link { so-language: zxx } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\">But to be serious with regard to the man, I imagine, from what he tells me, and from a letter of yours which he showed me, that he had endeavoured to be useful to the Duke of Bedford and you during the negotiations of the peace: perhaps he was useful in some particulars, but to what extent you best know, and I am certain, that you neither forget nor neglect him, tho you have not answered his multiplied letters. I should not think, that it at all lay upon me to solicit you in his behalf, or even to write to you about him, had I not been forced by his constant teazing, which I could no otherwise get rid of. If the Duke of Bedford thinks him entitled to no reward, you would do this family a great service by telling him so at once: if the Duke intends to do him service, he would be very happy to have the encouragement of some hint in his favour. I only beg of you to excuse my meddling at all in this affair; which, I am sensible, does not belong to me, and which I should have avoided, had it not been in this manner extorted from me.<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124827142&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhfm1359&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhfm1359\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2020\u00a01<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\">I am, &amp;c.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\">DAVID HUME<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\">\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } \t\tA:link { so-language: zxx } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124827142&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;hitsperheading=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhtm1357&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhtm1357\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2020\u00a0<span lang=\"nl-NL\">*<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span lang=\"nl-NL\"> <\/span><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><em><strong>Bedford Corr<\/strong><\/em><\/span><span lang=\"nl-NL\">., iii. 257 f.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } \t\tA:link { so-language: zxx } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124827142&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;hitsperheading=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhtm1358&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhtm1358\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2020\u00a0<span lang=\"nl-NL\">3<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span lang=\"nl-NL\"> See note 1 on p. 409 above.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } \t\tA:link { so-language: zxx } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124827142&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;hitsperheading=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhtm1359&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhtm1359\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2020\u00a0<span lang=\"nl-NL\">1<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span lang=\"nl-NL\"> &#8216;The information with which M. de PINTO furnished the Duke [of Bedford] consisted chiefly of extracts from the papers of the celebrated Dupleix, who after having ruled the Carnatic with absolute sway was living in abject poverty in Paris, by which it appeared that territories of the annual value of \u00c2\u00a370,000 had been ceded to the French East India Company on the 1st of July 1749 (or about a fortnight before the commencement of hostilities), on such terms as left no doubt of the connexion between the session and the hostilities. These territories, of which the Company had long been dispossessed, would of course have been restored to it under the words of the Treaty. Such a result was obviously a gross injustice on the English Company, and the scruples of the Duke to press their case further being at once removed, he renewed his application to the duc de Choiseul for the alteration of the epoch. Finding the French ministers obstinate in their refusal, he frankly told them that he would return home in twelve hours, and lay the whole affair before Parliament, unless he gained his point.&#8217; They then agreed (<\/span><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><em><strong>Bedford Corr<\/strong><\/em><\/span><span lang=\"nl-NL\">., iii. 184 n.). On the representations of the Duke, de PINTO<\/span><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><strong> <\/strong><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"nl-NL\">subsequently received a pension of \u00c2\u00a3500 per annum from the East India Company (ibid., iii. 258 n.). See also Letter 250 below.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } \t\tA:link { so-language: zxx } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #800040;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\">Hume: TLDH Vol 1 Ltr 250 To: [??] [64] p 463<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124829556&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhfm1482&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhfm1482\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2020\u00a0*<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span lang=\"nl-NL\"> 250. <\/span><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><em><strong>To<\/strong><\/em><\/span><span lang=\"nl-NL\"> [\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 ?\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 ]<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } \t\tA:link { so-language: zxx } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\">[Summer 1764.]<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124829556&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhfm1483&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhfm1483\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2020\u00a01<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } \t\tA:link { so-language: zxx } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><a name=\"JUMPDEST_tldhtm1484\"><\/a><a name=\"JUMPDEST_tldhtm1485\"><\/a> <span lang=\"nl-NL\">Since receiving your Favour I have carefully perus&#8217;d all the dispatches that pass&#8217;d between the English Ministers and the Duke of Bedford during his Graces Residence at Paris in the years 1762 and 1763. I find that the paper you mention of the East India Company dated the 3d of Decr 1762 with the Letter of the Chairman to Mr Wood<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124829556&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhfm1484&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhfm1484\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2020\u00a02<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span lang=\"nl-NL\"> was transmitted on the 6t by the Earl of Egremont<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124829556&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhfm1485&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhfm1485\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2020\u00a03<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span lang=\"nl-NL\"> to the Duke of Bedford. The Plan, therefore of a new Epoch, namely the first of January 1749 instead of the commencement of hostilities in that year (the Epoch said by the Preliminaries) came originally from the East India Compy. and from the English Ministers. But notwithstanding this fact I find that Mr Pinto&#8217;s merits towards the Company are very considerable, as they have always been represented by the Duke of Bedford, and by Mr. Neville. For in the Letter from the Chairman to Mr. Wood, no other reason is assign&#8217;d for the Change of Epoch but the danger of Dispute or Ambiguity concerning the time of the Commencement of Hostilities. The Directors thought with great Appearance of reason that if they had discoverd the real state of the Case to the Ministry, the Secret might have taken Air, and come to the knowledge of the Enemy, who in that Case wou&#8217;d undoubtedly have adher&#8217;d with Firmness to the Epoch Established by the preliminaries. But tho&#8217; the reserve was founded on very plausible grounds, the necessary Consequence was that the Duke of Bedford finding the french Ministers exclaim against all Innovation in the preliminaries despair&#8217;d at first of obtaining the point; and not being apprized of its Importance, thought that he would be oblig&#8217;d to sign the Treaty, without making any Alteration in this particular. In this Critical moment, The Duke consulted Mr. Pinto, who had, it seems some Connexions in India and having very lately perus&#8217;d Dupleix&#8217;s Memoirs was perfectly well acquainted with the State of Affairs in that part of the World: He first told his Grace, that Hostilities between the Companies did not commence till the 15th July 1749, and that, therefore, had the Epoch fixed by the Preliminaries been follow&#8217;d in the definitive treaty, all the Acquisitions of the french E: I: Company, preceding that date must have been restor&#8217;d to them. But on the first of July in the same year, the Subah of the Carnatic (if I remember right) had made to that Company very large Grants to the annual Amot as Mr. Pinto calculates them of \u00c2\u00a3700,000 all which if the Epoch was changed, must become the property of the English Company. The Duke of Bedford now sensible of the Importance of the dispute, which was unknown to the french Ministers, insisted Strenuously on the Change of Epoch &amp; prevaild. This is Mr. Pinto&#8217;s real merit as I apprehend it. He did not point out the new Epoch, but he discover&#8217;d its Importance and prefer&#8217;d the Interests of England in a very Material point to those of France. At the same time the Duke of Bedford&#8217;s vigilance deserves great praise, for seeking &amp; finding the best Intelligence from all Quarters and for knowing how to profit by it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\">I have the honor to be with great regard Sir<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\">Your most obedt hble Sert<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span lang=\"nl-NL\">DAVID HUME<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } \t\tA:link { color: #000066 } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><span style=\"color: #000066;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124829618&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhtm1482&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhtm1482\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u2020\u00a0*<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/span> MS., R.S.E.; a draft not in Hume&#8217;s handwriting, but corrected by him here and there; hitherto unpublished. It was probably addressed to some one in the Secretary of State&#8217;s office at home.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><!-- \t\t@page { margin: 2cm } \t\tP { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } \t\tA:link { so-language: zxx } --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/library.nlx.com\/cgi-bin\/om_isapi.dll?clientID=124829556&amp;headingswithhits=on&amp;infobase=pmhume.nfo&amp;jump=tldhtm1483&amp;softpage=Document42&amp;wordsaroundhits=4#JUMPDEST_tldhtm1483\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u2020\u00a0<span lang=\"nl-NL\">1<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span lang=\"nl-NL\"> A guess. The letter is evidently answering the answer to Letter 229 above<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0cm;\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>dit is dus in zijn stuk over publiek krediet, maar ook in Sur le luxe valt Humes naam onmiddellijk hieronder de brieven: *********************** Hume: TLDH Vol 1 Ltr 229 To: Neville [64] p 423 \u2020\u00a0* 229. To RICHARD ALDWORTH NEVILLE\u2020\u00a03 Paris, March 14, 1764. Manifold have been the persecutions, dear Sir, which the unhappy Jews, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[25,229],"tags":[29,38],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/152"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=152"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/152\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1808,"href":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/152\/revisions\/1808"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=152"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=152"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=152"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}