{"id":130,"date":"2008-11-24T19:34:36","date_gmt":"2008-11-24T17:34:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hume.doesntexist.org\/\/?p=130"},"modified":"2009-07-08T23:20:00","modified_gmt":"2009-07-08T21:20:00","slug":"over-vroege-franse-vertalingen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archief.somtijds.nl\/hume-blog\/?p=130","title":{"rendered":"Over vroege Franse vertalingen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Malherbe meldt op bladzijde 55 &#8220;From this letter and the following one (noot 51: to abb\u00e9 le blanc 12 sept 1754) it is clear that he was keen for continental diffusion of his works in a language spoken everywhere in Europe.<\/p>\n<p><strong>(bron: Intelex online editie van The Letters of David Hume &#8211; TLDH, pagina 343 en 344)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Hume: TLDH Vol 2 App B [Early French Translators] p 343<br \/>\nAPPENDIX B<br \/>\nHUME&#8217;S EARLY FRENCH TRANSLATORS<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hierin schrijft &#8230; (editor van de brieven) over de eerste Franse vertalingen van Humes werk en de correspondentie die daarmee te maken had.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>1. The &#8216;Political Discourses&#8217;.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>This was the first of Hume&#8217;s works to appear in a foreign translation. The earliest translation of it was published as:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Discours politiques de Mr David Hume, traduits de l&#8217;Anglois par M. de M***. A Amsterdam; chez J. Schreuder, &amp; Pierre Mortier le Jeune. MDCCLIV. [16mo, pp. ii + 355.]<\/span><br \/>\nThe translator was El\u00e9azar de Mauvillon , of whom Le Blanc gives an unfavourable and probably an unfair account in his letter to Hume of 25 Dec. 1754 (see extract in vol. i, p. 207, note 3). There is nothing to show that Hume ever established touch with Mauvillon ; and there is much to show that he did not. As soon as we put together Letters 94, 97, 97A, 101, 113, 114, and 137, we see that they must have been all addressed to the same person; and as the replies to some of them are extant among the MSS., R.S.E., and are all from Le Blanc, we can establish the identity of Hume&#8217;s correspondent with certainty. Hume wrote all these letters to Le Blanc, and as far as we can tell, wrote no letters to Mauvillon . The entries in the Brit. Mus. Catalogue of Autograph Letters for Letters 94, 97, 101, and 113 (all among Egerton MSS. 21) should be revised accordingly.<\/p>\n<p>The Abb\u00e9 Le Blanc&#8217;s translation appeared first as:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #008000;\">Discours politiques de Monsieur Hume, traduits de l&#8217;Anglois. Amsterdam, et se vend \u00e1\u00a0 Paris, chez M. Lambert, 1754. [2 vols., 12mo.]<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The following year a second edition appeared as:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Discours politiques de Monsieur Hume. Traduits de l&#8217;Anglois. Nouvelle Edition Par Monsieur L&#8217;Abb\u00e9 Le Blanc Historiographe des Batimens du Roi de France . . . Avec Privil\u00e8ge du Roi. A Dresde, chez Michel Groell, Libraire et Marchand d&#8217;Estampes. M.DCC.LV. [2 vols., 8vo.]<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>2. Other Philosophical Works.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>In 1758, J. H. Schneider, an Amsterdam bookseller, began the publication of what he later on entitled OEuvres philosophiques de Mr. D. Hume. His translators were J.-B. M\u00e9rian, J.-B.-R. Robinet de Ch\u00e1\u00a2teaugiron and Mlle de la Chaux; and 5 vols. appeared, 1758-60, as follows:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">I-II. Essais philosophiques sur l&#8217;entendement humain . . . Avec les Quatres [sic] philosophes [The Epicurean, the Stoic, the Platonist, and the Sceptic].<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">III. Histoire naturelle de la Religion . . . avec un examen critique et philosophique de cet ouvrage.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Hume: TLDH Vol 2 App B [Early French Translators] p344<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">IV. Dissertation sur les passions, sur la trag\u00e9die, sur la r\u00e8gle du go\u00e1\u00bbt. (Only III and IV bear on the half-title OEuvres philosophiques de Mr. D. Hume.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">V. Essais de morale, ou Recherche sur les principes de la morale.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>In 1759 the same bookseller brought out: OEuvres philosophiques de M. D. Hume [2 tomes in 1 vol., 8vo.], which contained the same works as III and IV above, in the same translations, and<br \/>\nwith the same accompaniments. In 1764 he brought out what he called a second edition of OEuvres de M. Hume, in 2 vols., 8vo. This contained:<br \/>\nI. Essais moraux et politiques.<br \/>\nII. Essais philosophiques sur l&#8217;entendement humain.<br \/>\n<strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><br \/>\nOn 5 Dec. 1763, Schneider wrote to Hume:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8216;Il y a pr\u00e8s de quatre ans que j&#8217;ai cherch\u00e9 \u00e1\u00a0 me procurer votre adres, pour avoir l&#8217;honneur de vous pr\u00e9senter un exemplaire de vos Essais en Fran\u00e1\u00a7ais, que j&#8217;ai fait traduire dans cette Langue &amp; dont je vais dans peu publier le 6e volume de la premiere Edition, et le 1e de la seconde Edition &#8230;. Les tomes 1. 2. 3. &amp; 4 sont traduit \u00e1\u00a0 Berlin, &amp; le 5e \u00e1\u00a0 Paris. La traduction de tomes 3 4 &amp; 5, je les ai pay\u00e9 deux fois; pour en avoir seul le fond de l&#8217;Edition Fran\u00e1\u00a7aise; il me fallais faire ce Sacrifice, pour empecher qu&#8217;on n&#8217;en fit pas une edition \u00e1\u00a0 Geneve.<br \/>\n&#8216;Si vous publiez Monsieur, encore quelque chose, oserai-je vous prier, de me le faire parvenir d&#8217;abord, afin que je le puisse joindre sans delais. &#8216;Un de mes Confrere ici, a fait traduire un volume, en fran\u00e1\u00a7ais, dont je ne peux pas encore avoir le Droit de copie, mais j&#8217;ai esperance d&#8217;en faire l&#8217;acquisition dans peu, pour le faire imprimer d&#8217;un m\u00eame caractere &amp; format. La Traduction est fait par Mr Mauvillon \u00e1\u00a0 Dresde; Mr L&#8217;Abb\u00e9 le Blanc en a fait aussi une de ce volume, qui \u00e1\u00a0 mon avis, me semble beaucoup mieux que l&#8217;autre . . .&#8217;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>(MS., R.S.E., unpublished.)<\/p>\n<p>J.-B.-R. Robinet, author of the book, De la Nature, which made some stir in its day and which Hume mentions to Blair in Letter 237, may have made Hume&#8217;s acquaintance in France, but I think this is unlikely. At any rate he wrote to Hume from Amsterdam on 17 Dec. 1765, addressing his letter to Dublin on the assumption that Hume had gone there with Lord Hertford. This letter went astray, and on 2 Sept. 1767 Robinet sent another copy of it to Hume. He says that he is proposing to bring out a complete edition of Hume&#8217;s works in French, and he asks for Hume&#8217;s opinion on the comparative merits of Mauvillon&#8217;s and Le Blanc&#8217;s translations of the Political Discourses. He continues:<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;On a imprim\u00e9 en Hollande 6 petits volumes sous le titre d&#8217;OEuvres Philosophiques contenant les Essais sur l&#8217;entendement Humain, les Essais de Morale, l&#8217;histoire naturelle de la Religion &amp;c. Cette traduction ou plutot ces traductions sont de plusieurs mains. Il y a quelque peu de Voltaire dans les essais de morale, au moins j&#8217;ai vu des corrections de sa main sur une mauvaise traduction des premiers Essais, qui m&#8217;a pass\u00e9 manuscrite sous les yeux, &amp; qui est entr\u00e9e dans les 6 petits volumes dont je vous parle . . . Les traducteurs ont joint quelques notes dans lesquelles ils pr\u00e9tendent refuter le texte: ils me semblent de pigm\u00e9es qui vont heurter \u00e9tourdiment un colosse, ou des enfans qui veulent encha\u00e1\u00aener un g\u00e9ant avec un cheveu. Toutes ces notes seront supprim\u00e9es&#8230;. On vous attribue un Trait\u00e9 de la Nature humaine imprim\u00e9 \u00e1\u00a0 Londres en 1739 &amp; dont je ne connois point de traduction fran\u00e1\u00a7oise. On imprime actuellement ici la traduction d&#8217;un Ouvrage Anglois intitul\u00e9: Tableau Philosophique de l&#8217;histoire du Genre humain, depuis l&#8217;origine du monde jusqu&#8217;\u00e1\u00a0 Constantin. Le traducteur vous l&#8217;attribue.&#8217; (MS., R.S.E., unpublished.)<br \/>\n<strong>Hume: TLDH Vol 2 App B [Early French Translators] p 345<\/strong><br \/>\nApparently Hume answered this letter on 26 Sept. 1767, and either then or a little later sent Robinet a copy of the Essays and Treatises. There are two further letters from Robinet, both dated from Bouillon, among the MSS., R.S.E. He speaks of pushing on with his edition of Hume&#8217;s works, and of having it ready by the spring of 1769; but all that seems ever to have appeared is Le Temple du Bonheur noted below.<br \/>\nMeanwhile Andrew Millar&#8217;s friend, David Wilson, the London bookseller who visited Paris in the later summer of 1764 and was presented by Hume to Lord Hertford (see letter 250 above), had reprinted Schneider&#8217;s translations as: Hume:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #008000;\">OEuvres philosophiques de M. Hume, traduites de l&#8217;Anglois . . . Nouvelle<br \/>\nEdition, Londres, D. Wilson, 1764, in 6 vols., 8vo:<br \/>\nI. Les huits [sic] premiers Essais sur l&#8217;entendement<br \/>\nhumain.<br \/>\nII. Les quatre derniers Essais sur l&#8217;entendement humain et les quatre<br \/>\nphilosophes.<br \/>\nIII. Histoire naturelle de la<br \/>\nreligion.<br \/>\nIV. Les Dissertations sur les passions, sur la trag\u00e9die et sur la r\u00e8gle du<br \/>\ngo\u00e1\u00bbt.<br \/>\nV. Les Recherches sur les principes de la<br \/>\nmorale.<br \/>\nVI. Les Essais moraux et<br \/>\npolitiques.<\/span><br \/>\nThis was probably a pirated edition.<br \/>\nThree other publications about this time may be noted:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #008000;\">(a) Essais sur le commerce; le luxe; l&#8217;argent; l&#8217;int\u00e9r\u00eat de l&#8217;argent; les<br \/>\nimp\u00e1\u00b4ts; le credit public; et la balance du commerce; par M. David Hume.<br \/>\nTraduction nouvelle, avec des R\u00e9flections du Traducteur. Et Lettre d&#8217;un<br \/>\nn\u00e9gociant de Londres \u00e1\u00a0 un de ses amis . . . A Paris, chez Saillant . . . A Lyon,<br \/>\nChez Aim\u00e9 De la Roche . . . M.DCC.LXVII. [8vo, pp. 232.]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">(b) Pens\u00e9es philosophiques, morales, critiques, litt\u00e9raires et politiques de<br \/>\nM. Hume . . . A Londres. Et se trouve \u00e1\u00a0 Paris, chez la Veuve Duschesne . . .<br \/>\nM.DCC.LXVII. [12mo, pp. xii + 416.]<\/span><\/p>\n<p>(c) Le Temple du Bonheur, ou Recueil des plus excellens Trait\u00e9s sur le<br \/>\nBonheur, extraits des meilleurs auteurs anciens et modernes, Tome premier. A<br \/>\nBouillon, Aux D\u00e9pens de la Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 Typographique. Et se trouve \u00e1\u00a0 Paris, chez<br \/>\nLacombe. M.DCC.LXIX. [8vo.]<br \/>\n<strong>Hume: TLDH Vol 2 App B [Early French Translators] p 346<\/strong><\/p>\n<h3><strong>3. The Suppressed Essays.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Copies of Hume&#8217;s two suppressed essays, Of Suicide and Of the Immortality of the Soul, found their way early into France. Perhaps Hume himself lent them to some of his philosophical friends in Paris and allowed copies to be taken; perhaps they were shown as curiosities by John Wilkes, who had a proof copy in his possession at one time. However it may have been, they appeared for the<br \/>\nfirst time in a French translation in a book entitled Recueil Philosophique, 2 tom. in 1 vol., Londres, 1770. Tome II of this publication contains, inter alia:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">(i) Sentences des Philosophes sur la nature de l&#8217;\u00e1\u00a2me, par M. Mirabaud.<br \/>\n(ii) Dissertation sur l&#8217;immortalit\u00e9 de l&#8217;\u00e1\u00a2me, traduit de l&#8217;anglois.<br \/>\n(iii) Dissertation sur le suicide, traduit de l&#8217;anglois.<br \/>\n(iv) Probl\u00e8me important. La religion est-elle n\u00e9cessaire \u00e1\u00a0 la morale et utile \u00e1\u00a0 la politique? par M. Mirabaud.<br \/>\n(v) Pens\u00e9es sur la religion. Anonyme.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>(ii) and (iii) are Hume&#8217;s essays. The &#8216;Mirabaud&#8217; given as the author of (i) and (iv) is a pseudonym for the Baron d&#8217;Holbach, and Lanson definitely gives d&#8217;Holbach as the translator of Hume&#8217;s essays, I do not known on what authority. I imagine Hume never heard of these translations and would have been somewhat annoyed if he had.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>4. The &#8216;History&#8217;.<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>These have all been referred to in the Notes above. (See especially Vol. i, pp.<br \/>\n258, 302, 415, 494.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Malherbe meldt op bladzijde 55 &#8220;From this letter and the following one (noot 51: to abb\u00e9 le blanc 12 sept 1754) it is clear that he was keen for continental diffusion of his works in a language spoken everywhere in Europe. 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